Bike Related Matters No. 6

Although this is entitled Bike Related Matters, and its my thoughts about bikes & bikers, I think this month’s theme could apply to the car fraternity as well.

Over the last 6 months my thoughts have been concentrated on the future of Classic Trials. However, a bike rider reminded me of the past (thanks PD). He was quite right, we all owe a huge debt to the guys that have organised the sport over the last X years, ensuring it is here today for us to enjoy. RESPECT AND THANK YOU FROM US ALL!

A lot of these guys are now becoming like a good cheese – Extra Mature and better for it. They have filled various posts, worked hard and at times put the sport before themselves (and spouses/families). I’m thinking mainly of the Club stalwarts who have organised and run the trials, but it covers all volunteers.

Now I’m speaking to more Clubs around the country I’m finding the same guys have been responsible for a long time. I won’t name names because that is unfair, but it is a common tale. We (the entrants) have let them do it, assumed they will do it again the next year, and the next. I know of some who have left their trials car or bike gathering dust because they are busy organising events for the rest of us.

Is it fair – no. Is it a good thing – of course not. Is it in our (or the sports) interest – well, no, it’s not.

Think about it. If they said enough is enough, I wouldn’t blame them, but what would we do? We live in a selfish world, but please, don’t say they enjoy it – rollocks! A lot of folk complain about ‘glitches’ – I think well, tough, what have you done to help. I’ve overheard comments such as ‘they are stuck in the past’ – who’s fault is that if new blood doesn’t volunteer. One person said ‘I’m too busy to do that job’ but rode in 11 trials (that I know of) that year – that is another excuse I don’t accept. If we care about the sport we can spare a couple of evenings or a day to ensure the sport happens. How many hours do you spend in front of or in the TV/X box/pub/washing the car, defoliating etc?

Let’s get a grip and make sure we all do our bit. Don’t wait to be asked, go & offer. Become an apprentice to the CoC or help get permissions for the sections. A lot can be done in the evenings, before or after the day as well as on the day. Help & learn from those who have years of experience and wisdom, don’t let it disappear. Wouldn’t it be great to let these guys have a day off to compete behind the handlebars or wheel in the trial they have kept running for years? Would it be a total disaster if occasionally we gave up one entry to help run a trial, there’s a lot worst that could happen.?

Its a strange thing, but once you volunteer, put something back, folk often find they are happy to do some of these jobs, enjoy the sport more, and the biggy, help their sport to be there for themselves in years to come . That is a win/win surely?

To para-phrase JFK:- Think not what your Club does for you (and it does hell of a lot), but think what you can do for your Club.

Just a quick point for organisers – please let folk help – take on an apprentice. I don’t know why the Clee Hills was cancelled (shame – I was looking forward to it), but if any organiser is faced with doing similar, please shout help to the rest of us. Most issues can be resolved if we are aware of them, there is a lot of brains & brawn out there in Classic Trials land.

Well, thats better. Sorry to rant, I don’t think it will do any good, but I’m happy to be proved me wrong!

Graham (email: [email protected])

P.S. Bernie needs some more good reliable marshals for the Durham Dales (May 27th), Weardale is great that time of year, there’s plenty to see & do for a couple of days.

Torbay Trial 2018 Regs Now Available

Torbay Motor Club LogoEntries are now open for the 2018 Torbay Trial. You can download the regs and entry form below but it’s much easier to use the Torbay Motor Club’s online entry system – click here.

2018 Torbay Trial Entry Pack (Cars)
2018 Torbay Entry Pack (Bikes)

“The year marks the 10th Torbay Trial being organized by the current team of Dave Haizelden and Keith Sanders and as always we will go to great efforts to set-out the Sections such that the Overall winner could be from any Class.

The Torbay Trial will run as qualifying rounds of the 2018 ACTC and the ASWMC Classic Reliability Championships on Sunday 18th March 2018, and will again cater for Car and Motorcycle Classes.

The Trial will start and finish at the Exeter Court Hotel, Kennford, Exeter EX6 7UX. This is easily accessible from all directions and immediately off the A38, approximately 1 mile from the end of the M5.

For cars we are again running an additional Clubmans Permit for members of the 15 listed Motor Clubs. This is intended to allow “occasional” competitors to bring out their vehicles and enter this event without the need to purchase additional club membership or MSA Competition Licence.

As instigators of the of the “best performing Japanese Production Car” award we will again be offering this along with an award for the best performing Torbay car member.

The road route will be slightly shorter than previous years and we plan to include the popular classic hills such as John Grants Lane, Simms and Tipley as well as a couple of new Sections we’ve found if the conditions permit.

This event has grown in popularity and has often reached full capacity, therefore to avoid disappointment it is recommended that you submit your entry early.

If you are not planning to compete but can help to Marshal then please contact Dave Haizelden Clerk of Course – 07841 860121

The online entry system has been simplified this year so we encourage you to enter on-line at www.torbaymotorclub.co.uk where you can submit your entry and pay on-line.
(If logging on for the first time you will need to follow the “Register” link in top right corner)”

Start Venue : Exeter Court Hotel, Kennford, Exeter, EX6 7UX

ACTC Awards Dinner 2018

The 2018 awards dinner for both the 2016 and 2017 championships will take place on Saturday 17th March, at the Padbrook Park Hotel, Cullompton, Devon. This is the night before the Torbay Trial, it is only a 25 minute drive from Cullompton to the start of the trial, there are rooms and plenty of trailer parking at Padbrook Park so hopefully people will make a weekend of it.

Further details can be found by clicking the link below.

2018 ACTC Awards Dinner

For any additional information please contact Alan Selwood – 07890 962191 or [email protected]

Could anyone with a current trophy please contact Alan to arrange collection (ideally from the start of a trial).

Rooms can be booked at Padbrook Park, just mention the ACTC to get the group rate.

Padbrook Park Hotel
Cullompton
Devon
EX15 1RU
01884 836100

Chairmans Trial 2018 Regs Available

Holsworthy Motor ClubEntries are now open for the 2018 Chairmans Trial, being held on Sunday 18th February.

2018 Chairmans Trial Entry Pack (Cars)
2018 Chairmans Trial Entry Pack (Bikes)

“Although not an ACTC Championship round we offer a fantastic days sport with the lowest entry fees in the calendar so come and join in. The event will be run under a dual National B and Clubman’s permit.

We are grateful to Kivells Auctioneers for allowing their car park and facilities at the Holsworthy Cattle Market to be used for the start again this year.

We should have at least 17 sections and 2 special tests in a route of 55 miles. Please come and have fun with us”

Start Venue : Holsworthy Livestock New Market, Holsworthy, EX22 7FA

Northern Trial 2018 Regs Available

Fell Side Auto Club LogoEntries are now open for the 2018 Northern Trial, running on Saturday 17th February.  Separate regs and entry forms for cars and bikes are below.

2018 Northern Trial Entry Pack (Cars)
2018 Northern Trial Entry Pack (Bikes)

“The 2018 Northern Classic Trial has a compact route of 58 road and 20 forestry miles around the Northern Lake District visiting many of the sections from previous years including the infamous Sandale, Black Hole and, once again, Big Cockup. We will use variable tyre pressures, diversions and a few restarts to make the trial more enjoyable for all competitors. The start venue is at the Hope’s Auction Mart in Wigton, they are geared up for farmers and we fit in well. Very good hot food and drinks will be available before the start and after the finish.

This year’s event is Round 5 of the ACTC National Championship and Round One of the ACTC North Regional Championship for cars. It is a great opportunity to score some points in very spectacular scenery.

The Clubmans event, which doesn’t require a MSA Competition Licence, is open to members of FSAC and members of invited clubs: – MCC, VSCC, Wigton MC, Preston & District VCC, Durham AC, Middle-England CVC, Ilkley DMC, Airedale & Pennine MCC and other ACTC Affiliated Clubs. Except for class 0 the Clubmans event will follow the same route and sections as the National B.

Should you be unable to enter this year perhaps you would be willing to marshal. We can promise you an enjoyable day in the country, interesting cars and bikes, good company and great atmosphere. Contact Myke Pocock at [email protected] or phone 01228 530555.

Up to date details of the trial can be found on our website www.fellsideac.co.uk

Whatever you drive, we are looking forward to seeing you on the 2018 Northern Classic Trial”

Start Venue : Hopes Auction Mart, Syke Road, Wigton, Cumbria, CA7 9NS

Tyre Control

As you may be aware, if you have read the ACTC council September minutes, we are looking to an alternative form of tyre control. The existing approved list is becoming unsuitable for purpose. Budget tyres come and go quicker than the list can be updated and tread patterns change whilst keeping the same name. The basis of the list is the subjective approval of a tread pattern, whilst other organisers of trials (M/C, VSCC ,750MC etc.) define a maximum tread block gap. This is the new approach which will be discussed by the Clubs at the April ACTC council meeting.

We are in the process of establishing a max gap to propose to the clubs at the April council meeting. I have attached the data that we have so far. If anyone would like to measure their tyres and send me the figures I will add it to the list. We are looking for the maximum block gap anywhere on the tread. If the new method is approved by the clubs a tyre can be checked by ensuring a gauge of the agreed size can be held in the biggest gap, as shown in the image above. It can be seen from the data that tyre size can have an impact on block gaps. This is something the present list fails to address. Looking to the future the opportunity to have different limits per class or specific car would be possible.

Pete Hart [email protected]

DiaSectionProfileNameMax Tread Gap
1315580Colway5.6
1317570Mentor M4007.1
1416580Vredestein Sprint5
1416580Dunlop SP 75
1416580Roadstone SB8025.6
1417580Vredestein Sprint5.7
1418580Matador MP3006.5
1417565Mentor M4006.8
1417580Kingpin KMT7.1
1416580Kingpin KMT7.2
1418580Hankook K7157.4
1418580Kingpin K4S7.5
1516580Toyo 3304.4
1516580Maxxis MA5014.8
1516580Vredestein Sprint5.5
1516580Pirelli Cinturato5.5
1516580Firestone F5605.5
1516580T Trac7.1
1518580Matador MP3007.5
1518580Hankook RA107.5
1518580Kingpin K4S9.5

Cotswold Clouds Trial 2018 Regs Available

Stroud & District Motor ClubEntries are now open for the 2018 Cotswold Clouds Trial.

2018 Cotswold Clouds Trial Entry Pack

“On Sunday 4th February 2018 we welcome you to join us, as we have done since 1963, for our annual Cotswold Clouds Classic Trial. Over the years many competitors and spectators have enjoyed the Cotswold Hills, and this year will hopefully be no exception. Some sections have been eased to suit all classes but still present a challenge, and of course, we still have the old favourites to be climbed such as Crooked Mustard, Nailsworth Ladder and Wicked Juniper. A couple of new sections in Badgers Wood will finish the event.

The Clouds, winner of the ACTC Trial of the Year award in 2016, remains a successful and popular trial attracting a full entry for many years. The organising team of Carl Talbot, Mark Hobbs, Nigel Scotford, Ben Giles and Suzanne Burns look forward to receiving your entries, so please complete and return the enclosed entry form as soon as possible to avoid disappointment. We will keep you updated with entries via our website and the Clubs Facebook page.

This year we are moving our scrutineering venue to Fromebridge Mill, where signing on and the start of the event will also take place as per previous years. Tea, coffee and hot food will be available as usual. No trailers should be taken to the start but they can be left at SKF as previously.

The trial will finish at the Minchinhampton Common Golf Club where good food and drinks will be available at very reasonable prices, so please support them.

If you’re not planning to compete this year, please consider offering your services as a Marshal. These offers are so very much appreciated and we literally couldn’t do it without you. Our Chief Marshal is Nigel Scotford, so please give him a ring on 01453 884691 or 01453 873787 if you are able to help in any way.

We look forward to seeing you on the hills.”

Start Venue : Fromebridge Mill, Fromebridge Lane, Gloucester, GL2 7PD

2017 Car and Motorcycle Final Championship Tables

CARS – National Championship Winners
2017 Wheelspin League : Dean Partington
2017 Crackington League : Ray Ferguson
2017 Navigators League : Hannah Ferguson

CARS – Regional Championship Winners
2017 North Regional League : David Golightly
2017 South Regional League: James Shallcross
2017 Midland Regional League : Mike Chatwin
2017 West Regional League : Paul Merson

MOTORCYCLES – National Championship Winners
2017 Pouncy League : Kathy Martin
2017 Red Rose League : Geoff Westcott

MOTORCYCLES – Regional Championships
2017 North Regional Pouncy League : Philip Sanders
2017 South Regional Pouncy League : Chris Barham
2017 South West Regional Pouncy League : Kathy Martin
2017 West Regional Pouncy League : Kathy Martin

2017 North Regional Red Rose Bowl League : Al Lidgate
2017 South Regional Red Rose Bowl League : Geoff Westcott
2017 South West Regional Red Rose Bowl League : Geoff Westcott
2017 West Regional Red Rose Bowl League : Geoff Westcott

Due to lack of entries there will be no awards this year for the Motorcycle Regional Championships. I hope we can get a much bigger entry next year.

Could competitors check that their scores are correct. Please quote your competition number for that event if querying a score.

John Bell [email protected]

No Clee Hills Trial in 2018

CLEE HILLS TRIAL 2018

The Midland Automobile Club much regrets that it will be unable to organise the Clee Hills Trial in January 2018.

After the success of this year’s trial, especially, perhaps, for the motorcyclists who were able to compete on the trial for the first time in the event’s 70-year history, it is a huge disappointment that the club is unable to put on the trial next year.

The club thanks and expresses its considerable appreciation of considerable work undertaken by the team, notably Simon Woodall, Adrian Tucker-Peake, Graham Austin, Richard Houlgate and Jonathan Toulmin, all of whom have been instrumental in organising the Clee Hills Trial for the Midland Automobile Club over the last 24 years – the only classic trial run in the Midlands.

MAC intend to run the event in January 2019.

Launceston Trial 2018 Regs Now Available

Launceston & North Cornwall Motor ClubEntries are now open for the 2018 Launceston Trial, running on Sunday 11th February.

2018 Launceston Trial Entry Pack (Cars)
2018 Launceston Trial Entry Pack (Bikes)

“Launceston & North Cornwall Motor Club invite you to the 2018 Launceston Trial.

The trial will again run in its popular format as a single venue trial held in Eastcott & Lew Woods. As always we hope to introduce some new sections and of course sections from the Tamar Trial will be included. This year the Start area will be in the old wood yard so there should be more space for parking along the track to it. We again plan to have a catering van in attendance throughout the day providing hot rolls and baps etc. and hot & cold drinks.

Membership to Launceston & North Cornwall Motor Club for the year will as usual be offered anyone who enters the trial. Therefore competitors from any club, or indeed if you have yet to renew your club membership, all are very much welcome to enter the trial as you will automatically become a member of the organising club upon entry. And of course as the event is run under a Clubman permit there is the added bonus that you don’t need a competition licence to enter.

We hope you can join us on Sunday 11th February and look forward to providing you with a good day’s sport.”

Venue : Lew Woods, Lewdown, Devon, EX20 4NY